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"these decisions are made at nsa." at nsa? so, that one agency just gets to decide on its own that it's going to bug the cell phones of world leaders for years? and what, just hope the president doesn't find out about it? you guys are making the call on your own? what's going on here? and is the nsa under anyone's control? joining us now is my friend, ron sust yin, putseer prize winning journalist and from the harvard school of ethics and author of many books, including "the one percent doctrine." thanks for being here. >> nice to be here. >> so, what's going on here? and, the hardest thing for me about intelligence stories is that i never believe anybody. how can we know if the nsa is doing this on their own terms? it seems impossible. >> well, it's the way this system has worked in a way for a long time. the word to remember, plausible deniability, two words. what you have here is an operation that yields intelligence, signal intelligence, that the president is kind of not supposed to know the source of. the way these briefi
"these decisions are made at nsa." at nsa? so, that one agency just gets to decide on its own that it's going to bug the cell phones of world leaders for years? and what, just hope the president doesn't find out about it? you guys are making the call on your own? what's going on here? and is the nsa under anyone's control? joining us now is my friend, ron sust yin, putseer prize winning journalist and from the harvard school of ethics and author of many books, including "the one...
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documents provided by nsa leaker edward snowden. the spanish government summoned the american ambassador asking for an explanation. >>> this weekend, thousands of protesters marched on capitol hill demanding an end to the government surveillance program at home and abroad. many carried signs praising snowden and thanking him for blowing wistle on the nsa by leaking classified documents. this comes as international outrage builds over the broad scope of the nsa's data gathering over years. european leaders continue to put pressure on the country to for a new spying deal on allies. chefon, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. >> let's explain why it is some officials have explained perhaps why the president would not know about this for five years. >> as it was explained to us, this type of surveillance is the type of program or decision that would be executed at the level of the national security agency and the way the protocols are set up at this point, that's sort of where the line of information would stop. there isn't n
documents provided by nsa leaker edward snowden. the spanish government summoned the american ambassador asking for an explanation. >>> this weekend, thousands of protesters marched on capitol hill demanding an end to the government surveillance program at home and abroad. many carried signs praising snowden and thanking him for blowing wistle on the nsa by leaking classified documents. this comes as international outrage builds over the broad scope of the nsa's data gathering over...
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right now this is a very nasty moment in our relations with europe because of the nsa spying flap. what can you do and how uncomfortable is it to be with our friends and allies who frankly are really angry at the u.s. for eavesdropping on angela merkel and other leaders. >> well, people are angry as you say, but they also understand it is important that iran not get a nuclear weapon. this is really at the top of president obama's inbox. this is the top of prime minister cameron and the president's inbox, top of the inbox for president putin and head of china as well, the other p5 plus 1 partner as well as chancellor merkel. we are focused on what the objective here is stop iran from having a nuclear weapon. we had the last round of p5 plus 1 negotiations during the government shutdown here in washington which didn't make it particularly easy either. indeed because we are so focused on peace and security for the world community, it trumps virtually everything else. >> and what about the syrian situation and iran's involvement in syria rearming the assad regime, aren't those other is
right now this is a very nasty moment in our relations with europe because of the nsa spying flap. what can you do and how uncomfortable is it to be with our friends and allies who frankly are really angry at the u.s. for eavesdropping on angela merkel and other leaders. >> well, people are angry as you say, but they also understand it is important that iran not get a nuclear weapon. this is really at the top of president obama's inbox. this is the top of prime minister cameron and the...
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washington guy, the nsa story. it's one of those things that you hear lawmakers will say, you know what, the public actually doesn't want to know a lot of this information. do you buy that? >> no. i think the public does want to know. >> what do they want to know? >> whether we're spying on our friends. you don't do that to friends. >> no justification of it? >> look, there are a lot of reasons that people might think that it's a good idea, but if you're going to have a relationship with a friend, you don't spy on your friends. you're going to also want to know did the president know about this, are they telling the truth. i think those are the things that people want to know. >> the objections we're hearing from capitol hill, i'm not sure it is them trying to respond to the media attention. we're shocked that this happened, made it look like they would not condone something like this and at the same time, they're privately going we understand that sources are -- >> well, you have to remember that congress tends to
washington guy, the nsa story. it's one of those things that you hear lawmakers will say, you know what, the public actually doesn't want to know a lot of this information. do you buy that? >> no. i think the public does want to know. >> what do they want to know? >> whether we're spying on our friends. you don't do that to friends. >> no justification of it? >> look, there are a lot of reasons that people might think that it's a good idea, but if you're going to...
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there's no instance yet of any abuse by the nsa. it's done to get information and intelligence that's essential to fill out the mosaic that we need to protect the american people and to protect our allies. >> sir, dana milbank from the "washington post" has this op-ed out asking how could the president not know his spies were bugging the german chancellor. is it better that he didn't know about his administration's missteps or that he knew about them and didn't stop them? in your estimation, sir, should the president be kept in the dark about certain security situations, ignorance being bliss when it comes to something like this? >> first of all, i'm not confirming that merkel was being tapped but assume for the purpose of the conversation that she was. no, i don't think the president should be kept in the dark. i don't consider that to be a misstep. that would be a policy decision. i don't think that should be done without the president knowing about it or without his very, very top advisers knowing about it because it has intellig
there's no instance yet of any abuse by the nsa. it's done to get information and intelligence that's essential to fill out the mosaic that we need to protect the american people and to protect our allies. >> sir, dana milbank from the "washington post" has this op-ed out asking how could the president not know his spies were bugging the german chancellor. is it better that he didn't know about his administration's missteps or that he knew about them and didn't stop them? in...
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her going after the nsa is like joe biden going an amtrak. from your perspective, are you concerned about too much oversight or do you acknowledge there needs to be more disclosure and transparency about the practices? >> i am fully in favor of more disclosure and transparency. it's an easy do to the committees. it's another thing how much you want to make public to the american public. the really interesting question is now the demand is europe public want to be told how we spy. he asked the watergate question, what did the president know and when did he know it. a foreign leader asking that shows where the center line of the current conversation now rests. we need to push that back towards the middle. >> sort of listening to dianne feinstein being shocked that this was going on reminded me of dianne feinstein and i'm sure you too. jay rockefeller and other democrats being shocked in 2006 at the programs we were doing in 2002 and 2003 that they were briefed on. >> i guess they were playing for the stands? >> i don't want to imput them. senat
her going after the nsa is like joe biden going an amtrak. from your perspective, are you concerned about too much oversight or do you acknowledge there needs to be more disclosure and transparency about the practices? >> i am fully in favor of more disclosure and transparency. it's an easy do to the committees. it's another thing how much you want to make public to the american public. the really interesting question is now the demand is europe public want to be told how we spy. he asked...
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in fact, your aument that basically from the website to nsa, he's like, i don't know what's going on. >> that doesn't wear on the american people longer term. doesn't provide a lot of confidence. >> we're still stuck on this idea he didn't know what the nsa was doing. but we know better. we have intelligence officials who are saying not only did he know, but he approved this sort of stuff. >> i just want to clarify that my point is a different one. we have ratings agencies also saying that the american economy is undermined by the dysfunction in washington. i'm not calling on the president to be a better leader. i think that is a silly and simplistic notion. i am pointing out the fact that you have a group in congress that have decided they don't care if they hold the country hostage, they don't care if they hold the economy hostage, they don't care if they blow up their own party, they will do whatever they can to undermine the president. >> you also have -- guys, you also have -- >> you're absolutely right that the right has decided whoever is president, whoever is democratic presid
in fact, your aument that basically from the website to nsa, he's like, i don't know what's going on. >> that doesn't wear on the american people longer term. doesn't provide a lot of confidence. >> we're still stuck on this idea he didn't know what the nsa was doing. but we know better. we have intelligence officials who are saying not only did he know, but he approved this sort of stuff. >> i just want to clarify that my point is a different one. we have ratings agencies...
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was the nsa, indeed, doing this without letting people know? and that's a big question to me. >> one of the things we were talking about is how remarkable it would be that edward snowden might have known about this and barack obama didn't. then the other thing that strikes me is, you know, obviously i under that these programs are very controversial but the amount of controversy over this program is a little bit higher it seems than when we found out they were collecting bulk data on regular citizens. diane feinstein the chairman of the senate intelligence committee is outraged over this disclosure but fine with the other ones. >> what's worse to express, mike barnacle, that i think it's many world leaders that have this happen to them not just angela merkel and i wonder if that should have come out or if that creates more of a firestorm. but, again, it's not george w. bush sitting there with his head phones on listening to angela merkel's conversations, or president obama, it's very different. mike? >> but, mike, if the president knows, if he'
was the nsa, indeed, doing this without letting people know? and that's a big question to me. >> one of the things we were talking about is how remarkable it would be that edward snowden might have known about this and barack obama didn't. then the other thing that strikes me is, you know, obviously i under that these programs are very controversial but the amount of controversy over this program is a little bit higher it seems than when we found out they were collecting bulk data on...
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thanks to edward snowden, we now know the nsa monitored the phone conversations of 35 world leaders. that includes merkel, who is object sensibly a u.s. ally. merkel was reportedly livid about the surveillance and called president obama to register her displeasure. but the spying may have begun as far back as 2002, the early days of the bush administration, before merkel even became chancellor. and that timeline makes this clip from 2006 even creepier! i can't help but wonder if bush had gotten a tip from the nsa about how merkel mentioned on the phone she enjoyed the occasional back rub. here's the craziest part about this whole thing, it's not that we were tapping the german chancellor's phones, which is not necessarily that surprising, even though it involved an ally, it is that, apparently, president obama did not know we were doing it, according to a report from the "wall street journal" out today. the spying on merkel was part of the massive surveillance operation put in place by president george w. bush after the september 11th attacks, which members of the bush administration
thanks to edward snowden, we now know the nsa monitored the phone conversations of 35 world leaders. that includes merkel, who is object sensibly a u.s. ally. merkel was reportedly livid about the surveillance and called president obama to register her displeasure. but the spying may have begun as far back as 2002, the early days of the bush administration, before merkel even became chancellor. and that timeline makes this clip from 2006 even creepier! i can't help but wonder if bush had gotten...
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>> edward snowden's nsa revelations reaching new heights, getting spoofed on snl. but now the leaker is seeking ce clemens city. >>> and toronto's embattled mayor says he will stay in office. >>> and the sbepgs intentional that was the youtube music awards. that's a real thing? it is? okay. this is "way too early". good morning. i'm bill karins in for brian shactman. it's monday, november 4th. we'll also show and you scary moment in last night's texas/colt game. but first, the country's third biggest airport fully up and running again, but underlying safety concerns after a man used an assault arrival to kill one tsa agent and badly injured two other people. paul ciancia is in critical condition after being shot multiple times by officers. he was carrying five high capacity magazines, a bag of ammo and happennd written lette explaining his rampage. gun control advocates say the incident is unlikely to spark any head way in the limit of gun sales. >>> later today, the president will speak at an organizing for action health care summit looking to rally grass roots su
>> edward snowden's nsa revelations reaching new heights, getting spoofed on snl. but now the leaker is seeking ce clemens city. >>> and toronto's embattled mayor says he will stay in office. >>> and the sbepgs intentional that was the youtube music awards. that's a real thing? it is? okay. this is "way too early". good morning. i'm bill karins in for brian shactman. it's monday, november 4th. we'll also show and you scary moment in last night's texas/colt...
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he should stand with the nsa. he should be there with general alexander and the troops there. >> why don't we have a bigger debate, then, in congress? we really haven't had a debate in congress since 2001 to say what's appropriate use of executive power, what's appropriate use of spying that goes on? drones came up this week in the collateral damage from drones. what are the powers the president should have to fight terrorism? it seems like congress doesn't really want to have that debate because they're afraid to do it because they don't want to look weak. finally, some are saying let's push the debate out into the open. >> i'm not afraid of anything, but if we go too much into the open, then we let the enemy know what's going on and we create problems. the idea is we have to have a stronger fence, we have to have stronger spying, if you want to call it, stronger surveillance, and as far as the use of drones, the fact is every war there is collateral damage. unfortunately, innocent people are killed. but the effo
he should stand with the nsa. he should be there with general alexander and the troops there. >> why don't we have a bigger debate, then, in congress? we really haven't had a debate in congress since 2001 to say what's appropriate use of executive power, what's appropriate use of spying that goes on? drones came up this week in the collateral damage from drones. what are the powers the president should have to fight terrorism? it seems like congress doesn't really want to have that debate...
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>> nsa is like a runaway beer truck. somebody has got to jump inside of the beer truck and steer to it the side of the road. they are spying on the cardinals? >> the nsa saying i have a great idea the conclave with the cardinals, let's bug it. we'll get the early odds on who will be pope. come on get something to do. >> that's a little messed. >> new york names new york city has the strictest limits on tobacco products in the country. voted to raise the age to buy cigarettes from 18 to 21. michael bloomberg will sign the bill and take effect in six months. >> new jersey star ledger senator-elect cory booker will be sworn into office by vice president joe biden at the u.s. capitol today. booker submitted his letter of resignation from his post as mayor of new york, new jersey before leaving for d.c. he will finish the final year of the term of late senator frank lautenberg who passed away in june. >> "l.a. times," global wine shortage may be on the horizon as the world's largest wine producing countries, spain, france and
>> nsa is like a runaway beer truck. somebody has got to jump inside of the beer truck and steer to it the side of the road. they are spying on the cardinals? >> the nsa saying i have a great idea the conclave with the cardinals, let's bug it. we'll get the early odds on who will be pope. come on get something to do. >> that's a little messed. >> new york names new york city has the strictest limits on tobacco products in the country. voted to raise the age to buy...
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>> first about nsa collection, it seems increasingly clear if nsa could collect a signal it would. and just add to this ever greater pile of data. analysts couldn't possibly have gone through and made sense of all the signals that they had access to. in terms of spying on the world leaders, the 35 world leaders which is the latest thing that's riled the europeans and people all over the world, it's hard to imagine, if you captured something of interest from angela merkel's cell phone that reference to that wouldn't end up in the president's daily brief. may not say obtained through surveillance of her cell phone but the intelligence would be there otherwise why would you have it? snowden revelations, just keep rolling at the world and at the obama administration. i'm surprised there's not more push back because it's triggered a response by major nations, france, germany, even britain that's been our partner said it will work with the europeans for new rules. we'll come out of this with new rules that the nsa has to live with. somewhat more limited collection of these signals. the q
>> first about nsa collection, it seems increasingly clear if nsa could collect a signal it would. and just add to this ever greater pile of data. analysts couldn't possibly have gone through and made sense of all the signals that they had access to. in terms of spying on the world leaders, the 35 world leaders which is the latest thing that's riled the europeans and people all over the world, it's hard to imagine, if you captured something of interest from angela merkel's cell phone that...
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the nsa surveillance, which seems to be out of control, and keep this conflict and keep this threat in perspective. >> okay. krcritics are not questioning t results of the drone strikes abroad. it's the methods they take offense to. how legitimate are these strikes? is it a fair assessment there is, in fact, some it is a id approval to them? >> there definitely is. there was a great piece in "the washington post" last month that produced internal cia documents that show the pakistanis are cooperating with some of these strikes. but this is the problem. because we run this as a covert program, we sort of cover up the fact the pakistanis are letting us do this. there's always these protests in pakistan against the u.s. government. pakistanis should be upset with their military. why are they allowing these strikes to happen? the pakistani military could shoot down u.s. drones at any time. one proposal that's been out there is turn over drone strikes to the u.s. military, make them public and do what the u.s. military does in afghanistan. if there are reports of civilian casualties, you lo
the nsa surveillance, which seems to be out of control, and keep this conflict and keep this threat in perspective. >> okay. krcritics are not questioning t results of the drone strikes abroad. it's the methods they take offense to. how legitimate are these strikes? is it a fair assessment there is, in fact, some it is a id approval to them? >> there definitely is. there was a great piece in "the washington post" last month that produced internal cia documents that show...
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you called for changes to be made to the nsa's massive phone data gathering program and say it's the evidence that it has made us safer is limited. instead it appears that the utility of the metadata program has been conflated with the success of other collection efforts. how do you determine how much surveillance, then, is too much? >> i think we have to weigh what is the size of the program, what is the magnitude of the collection and what are the results it's getting? and even more than that, even if it met that test, even if the metadata program was very successful, we also have to ask, is it necessary to collect all this data or can the program be restructured? in my view, the program can be restructured in a way that has the telecommunications providers retain their own data. i doesn't require the government to get all that data. when we suspect that a phone number is connected to a plot, then we go to the phone company, much as we would do in a criminal investigation. so i think we can get the same information we need. we can continue to protect the country. we can continue to
you called for changes to be made to the nsa's massive phone data gathering program and say it's the evidence that it has made us safer is limited. instead it appears that the utility of the metadata program has been conflated with the success of other collection efforts. how do you determine how much surveillance, then, is too much? >> i think we have to weigh what is the size of the program, what is the magnitude of the collection and what are the results it's getting? and even more...
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more from my interview with senator reid tonight, including whether the nsa is essentially an out-of-control agency that is not overseen by congress. also an answer to this question. i want to know if you took that personally, that they want to bring the republican party sort of in your face in the middle of the re-election effort. >> the senator's answer on whether or not he wanted the committee in las vegas next time when he is running for re-election, that answer and more, posted on maddo.com blog tonight. meanwhile, the answer from rand paul, and in his response he called me names and doesn't seem to understand what the word plagiarism means. but other than that he is pretty interesting. and that is straight ahead. >>> six days until the off-off year elections around the country, and the republican nominee to be the next lieutenant governor of virginia, is this man, the chaplain from chesapeake. he is known for being a fiery anti-gay, anti-muslim preacher, who says that democrats are anti-god. in the last poll, he is trailing his democratic opponent by 13 points, with less than a week ag
more from my interview with senator reid tonight, including whether the nsa is essentially an out-of-control agency that is not overseen by congress. also an answer to this question. i want to know if you took that personally, that they want to bring the republican party sort of in your face in the middle of the re-election effort. >> the senator's answer on whether or not he wanted the committee in las vegas next time when he is running for re-election, that answer and more, posted on...
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more from my interview with senator reid tonight, including whether the nsa is essentially an out-of-control agency that is not overseen by congress. also an answer to this question. i want to know if you took that personally, that they want to bring the republican party sort of in your face in the middle of the re-election effort. >> the senator's answer on whether or not he wanted the committee in las vegas next time when he is running for re-election, that answer and more, posted on maddo.com blog tonight. meanwhile, the answer from rand paul, and in his response he called me names and doesn't seem to understand what the word plagiarism means. but other than that he is pretty interesting. and that is straight ahead. [ woman ] too weak. wears off. [ female announcer ] stop searching and start repairing. eucerin professional repair moisturizes while actually repairing very dry skin. the end of trial and error has arrived. try a free sample at eucerinus.com. a 3d white smile with crest 3d white toothpaste. it removes up to 90% of surface stains in just 5 days. unleash your smile with crest 3
more from my interview with senator reid tonight, including whether the nsa is essentially an out-of-control agency that is not overseen by congress. also an answer to this question. i want to know if you took that personally, that they want to bring the republican party sort of in your face in the middle of the re-election effort. >> the senator's answer on whether or not he wanted the committee in las vegas next time when he is running for re-election, that answer and more, posted on...
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more from my interview with senator reid tonight, collectin whether the nsa is essentially an out-of-control agency that is not overseen by congress. also an answer to this question. i want to know if you took that personally, that they want to bring the republican party sort of in your face in the middle of the re-election effort. >> the senator's answer on whether or not he wanted the committee in las vegas next time when he is running for re-election, that answer and more, posted on maddo.com blog tonight. meanwhile, the answer from rand paul, and in his response he called me names and doesn't seem to understand what the word plagiarism means. but other than that he is pretty interesting. and that is straight ahead. amous or kind of fired. his bosses told him to pack up his things and go... ♪ ...to an office...with a door. see, matt works at esurance, where crazy ideas make car insurance faster, friendlier, and fit for life in the modern world, which isn't all that crazy when you think about it. esurance. insurance for the modern world. now backed by allstate. click or call. esurance. i
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. >> let me ask you as editor and publisher of the newspaper in germany, how is the nsa spying -- >> being handled? >> yeah. >> let me tell you what i think. if president obama would ask me, i would give him the following sp irgs spiel, yes, mr. president. we always do the spying, we spy on each other, even on friends. we do it, you do it, the french, the brits. first rule is don't get caught. since you always get caught eventually, mr. president, it's not worth it. i wouldn't do it. not with my best european ally. so let prudence prevail over paranoia. and then if you would still keep me there i would say, you know, paranoia is getting out of bounds in this country. >> mm-hmm. >> you're going to grant al qaeda that kind of victory by quaking in fear? >> we could do an hour on the myth of america's decline. thank you so much for giving us a small taste of the book. jos ergs f jaffe, thank you. >> thank you. >> up next from unemployed to internet sensation. how a young photographer is capturing the pulse of new york city. louis will bring us that when "morning joe" comes right back. i
. >> let me ask you as editor and publisher of the newspaper in germany, how is the nsa spying -- >> being handled? >> yeah. >> let me tell you what i think. if president obama would ask me, i would give him the following sp irgs spiel, yes, mr. president. we always do the spying, we spy on each other, even on friends. we do it, you do it, the french, the brits. first rule is don't get caught. since you always get caught eventually, mr. president, it's not worth it. i...
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. >>> a german magazine publishing an open letter it says was penned by nsa leaker edward snowden in what's been titled a manifesto for truth. snowden reportedly writes that calls for surveillance program reforms justify his decision to leak classified information and he calls the u.s. and british the worst offenders. ♪ nothing says, "you're my #1 copilot," like a milk-bone biscuit. ♪ say it with milk-bone. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for her, she's agreed to give it up. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with her all day to see how it goes. [ claira ] after the deliveries, i was okay. now the ciabatta is done and the pain is starting again. more pills? seriously? seriously. [ groans ] all these stops to take more pills can be a pain. can i get my aleve back? ♪ for my pain, i want my aleve. [ male announcer ] look for the easy-open red arthritis cap. >>> so later this afternoon, the senate takes up a landmark bill offering protection to lbgt people in the workplace. members have scheduled a procedural vote and a final vote is scheduled later in the we
. >>> a german magazine publishing an open letter it says was penned by nsa leaker edward snowden in what's been titled a manifesto for truth. snowden reportedly writes that calls for surveillance program reforms justify his decision to leak classified information and he calls the u.s. and british the worst offenders. ♪ nothing says, "you're my #1 copilot," like a milk-bone biscuit. ♪ say it with milk-bone. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for her, she's...
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eric schmitt is lashing over the nsa spying on the datacenters. we called it possibly illegal if are proven and said google complained to the president, vice president and congress. schmitt said the bulk data collection if true doesn't pass the smell test and is bad public policy. >> it's outrageous that the nasa security agency was looking between the centers if that's true. the steps that the organization was willing to do without good judgment went to pursue the mission and went to violate the policies. it's not okay. in that case they assisted us in understanding that. >> now a story on blackberry. >> wow. she's good. >> last minute deals and bids. blackberry now says they will abandon trying to sell itself. the toronto globe and mail reports the company will raise $1 billion and clean house of upper management including ceo thorston hinds. >> the best of the late night. keep had here on "morning joe." you're giving away pie? would you like apple or cherry? cherry. oil...or cream? definitely cream. [ male announcer ] never made with hydrogenat
eric schmitt is lashing over the nsa spying on the datacenters. we called it possibly illegal if are proven and said google complained to the president, vice president and congress. schmitt said the bulk data collection if true doesn't pass the smell test and is bad public policy. >> it's outrageous that the nasa security agency was looking between the centers if that's true. the steps that the organization was willing to do without good judgment went to pursue the mission and went to...